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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Aug 26, 2012 8:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dylan @ the Newport Folk Festival 1965

Micah:I saw this post this morning, but couldn't respond, but it has grown ! "No Direction Home" is wonderful, but can in no way encapsulate the whole deal ! Some of the anger aimed at him from Newport through the 66 tours , was this sense of betrayal . He was no longer "one of theirs". He wasn't writing straight ahead protest songs anymore, and the turning to the "commercial" sound of Rock n' Roll ! I wonder how many of those folks listened to "My Back Pages" on "Another Side" ( I sure wish some my overly political friends would listen to it today) ? Frankly he went beyond these people, and deepened his world and artistic vision . "It's Alright Ma" is protest song of a much deeper level (though I think his earlier songs are very good and age well, with a few exceptions). There is a vid I have seen of Woody and folks singing "Which side are you on", By 65, Dylan is having none of it, mocks this in "Desolation Row"
Praise be to Nero’s Neptune
The Titanic sails at dawn
And everybody’s shouting
“Which Side Are You On?”
Both sides are on the doomed ship, and are going down .
I have always wondered, in those 66 shows, the heckling and booing there, He had had one half electric, and one fully electric ( ok Desolation row is acoustic ) album out by then didn't they know ? And why didn't they just leave , since the electric portion was last ? The last word I heard that this was revenge, for his betrayal of the "party line" by, I kid you not, members of the English communist party ! The heckling is not just spontaneous, and it was meant to throw him off ( you can hear this in some of the shows). This climaxes in the famous, ( In the film ! YES) "Judas !". "I don't believe you, you're a liar (to the band) play fucking loud man ".
There are plenty of people in that "folk" movement, who's music I love, regardless of their political slant, but some of those people were little "Nazis, and ultimately clueless .

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Aug 27, 2012 9:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dylan @ the Newport Folk Festival 1965

One aspect of No Direction Home I did like, though it too was in danger of being overcooked, were the press conferences. (Do they still have them anymore? The last one I recall was the GD Rainforest Presser.) Dylan made it clear again and again that he was not going to be put in a box. His answers were goofy but it wasn't hard to hear his intent. I wish I could remember the stupid question asked when he was tired/angry/sick, and you could feel the lash and venom 47 years later (talk about reach).

It was sad to see Johnny Cash so high at Newport '64. His face was practically peeling back from his skull.

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Aug 27, 2012 11:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dylan @ the Newport Folk Festival 1965

Cash was pretty messed up in that era . But he was one of the few that defended Dylan ("just let the man sing"). It is funny, electric instruments were used in country music bands, and blues bands that played Newport . One thing I will give the people who's objection was not "ideological"; sound reinforcement was shit in those days . Our boys, and Bear deserve a lot of credit for improvement in the sound of loud electric music, but even that was a slow trial an error process, but in 1965/66.... And , to make matters worse, I believe Dylan refused to do a sound check for Newport! You couldn't make out the words, a problem ! So even if you were receptive to the electric sound, It was another leap to accept the distortion inherent in those early PAs. and inaudibility of the lyrics of an artist who was famous those lyrics .

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Aug 27, 2012 12:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dylan @ the Newport Folk Festival 1965

In my possible delusions I believe he had something quite direct to say to all the folkies, ect., which I've come to learn was totally defeated by them not being able to hear the lyrics.

Hey, have you seen this?

http://tinyurl.com/9t9ls27

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Aug 27, 2012 12:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dylan @ the Newport Folk Festival 1965

Nice painting ! Have you heard the semi electric 1st take he rejected ?
Well, on the acoustic numbers, at least his words were decreeable . At Newpot he did "Baby Blue" , which should have said it, and live Desolation Row, was always acoustic . In fact during those acoustic sets, it is almost pin drop quiet . Uptight , but quiet .
Now this sort of stuffiness seems sort of refreshing, these days ! How often at a Dead concert, at the quietest, most beautiful moment, some meathead is whooping "AHHHHUUUGGGHHH" , or talking, whistling etc. I saw Dylan with Tom Petty, years ago . In his acoustic segment, he did "Hard Rain", one of the best performances I have ever seen him do live . "..I heard 10,000 whispering, and nobody listenin'" and the crowd were all talking, and not listening, oblivious too what was being given to them .It was creepy, scary .

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Aug 27, 2012 12:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dylan @ the Newport Folk Festival 1965

A lot of people came specifically to boo. Of course his "going electric" was old news by then - Rolling Stone was already a hit - but those English folkies were a super-righteous bunch! In Eat the Document some of them are interviewed coming out of a show, complaining about his "rubbish" music & saying things like, "He's a traitor, he needs shooting," etc.

You can even see early murmurs of discontent in Don't Look Back (May '65) - Dylan's talking to some girl who says she doesn't like Subterranean Homesick Blues, and he explains, "I have to give some work to my friends..." (Meanwhile, you can also see him on the side checking out electric guitars & talking to a band that did electric covers of his songs.)